{"id":2056,"date":"2022-01-24T20:35:29","date_gmt":"2022-01-24T19:35:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.neznamo.cz\/genealogie\/?p=2056"},"modified":"2023-01-30T18:30:01","modified_gmt":"2023-01-30T17:30:01","slug":"jak-najit-k-jakemu-panstvi-patrila-konkretni-obec","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.neznamo.cz\/genealogie\/jak-najit-k-jakemu-panstvi-patrila-konkretni-obec\/","title":{"rendered":"Jak naj\u00edt k&nbsp;jak\u00e9mu panstv\u00ed pat\u0159ila konkr\u00e9tn\u00ed obec"},"content":{"rendered":"<span class=\"span-reading-time rt-reading-time\" style=\"display: block;\"><span class=\"rt-label rt-prefix\">\u010cas \u010dten\u00ed: <\/span> <span class=\"rt-time\"> 4<\/span> <span class=\"rt-label rt-postfix\">min.<\/span><\/span><p>\u010casto p\u0159i&nbsp;hled\u00e1n\u00ed p\u0159edk\u016f \u0159e\u0161\u00edme ot\u00e1zku, jak lze naj\u00edt informaci o&nbsp;tom, k&nbsp;jak\u00e9mu panstv\u00ed pat\u0159ila obec, v&nbsp;n\u00ed\u017e hled\u00e1me p\u0159edky. N\u011bkdy to v\u016fbec nen\u00ed snadn\u00e9. Ide\u00e1ln\u00ed by bylo, pokud by se hranice panstv\u00ed v&nbsp;historii nem\u011bnily, jen\u017ee ony se trochu m\u011bnily i&nbsp;u&nbsp;rozsahem hodn\u011b stabiln\u00edch panstv\u00ed. A&nbsp;byla i&nbsp;panstv\u00ed, u&nbsp;nich\u017e se a\u017e p\u0159\u00edli\u0161 \u010dasto m\u011bnilo to, jak\u00e9 vesnice (nebo jen \u010d\u00e1sti vesnice) k&nbsp;nim zrovna pat\u0159\u00ed. Je proto dobr\u00e9 se zaj\u00edmat nejen o&nbsp;to, k&nbsp;jak\u00e9mu panstv\u00ed vesnice pat\u0159ila, ale i&nbsp;o&nbsp;to, kdy k&nbsp;n\u011bmu pat\u0159ila a&nbsp;zda to byla cel\u00e1 obec nebo jen n\u011bkolik chalup z&nbsp;n\u00ed. A&nbsp;to b\u00fdv\u00e1 pom\u011brn\u011b obt\u00ed\u017en\u00e9.<br \/>\n<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>N\u011bkter\u00e9 <strong>obce maj\u00ed<\/strong> svou historii v&nbsp;r\u016fzn\u00e9m rozsahu <strong>zpracovanou<\/strong>, n\u011bkdy vy\u0161la v&nbsp;jimi vydan\u00e9 knize \u010di&nbsp;bro\u017eu\u0159e, jindy ji maj\u00ed jen na&nbsp;webu.<\/p>\n<p>Dal\u0161\u00edm m\u00edstem, kde b\u00fdv\u00e1 zpracovan\u00e1 historie panstv\u00ed, v\u010detn\u011b toho, jak se m\u011bnil jeho rozsah, b\u00fdvaj\u00ed <strong>invent\u00e1\u0159e fond\u016f velkostatk\u016f<\/strong>. B\u00fdv\u00e1 to zpracovan\u00e9 v&nbsp;r\u016fzn\u00e9m rozsahu, n\u011bkdy velmi podrobn\u011b, jindy jen obecn\u011b a&nbsp;bez uveden\u00ed obc\u00ed. N\u011bkter\u00e9 invent\u00e1\u0159e maj\u00ed n\u011bkter\u00e9 archivy digitalizovan\u00e9 na&nbsp;webech, pro jin\u00e9 je t\u0159eba si doj\u00edt do&nbsp;badatelny a&nbsp;tam nafotit. Pak p\u0159\u00edmo ve&nbsp;fondu velkostatku jdou vyu\u017e\u00edt <strong>archiv\u00e1lie<\/strong> (nap\u0159.&nbsp;soupisy poddan\u00fdch \u010di&nbsp;urb\u00e1\u0159e jsou velmi cenn\u00e9 pro z\u00edsk\u00e1n\u00ed informac\u00ed o&nbsp;rozsahu panstv\u00ed v&nbsp;dan\u00e9 dob\u011b), a&nbsp;to bu\u010f p\u0159\u00edmo archiv\u00e1lie nebo n\u011bkdy sta\u010d\u00ed jen jej\u00ed popis se seznamem obc\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p>N\u011bkdy m\u00e1 \u010dlov\u011bk \u0161t\u011bst\u00ed na&nbsp;to, jak je v&nbsp;archivu zpracovan\u00e1 <strong>evidence fond\u016f a&nbsp;archiv\u00e1li\u00ed v&nbsp;nich<\/strong> (v&nbsp;podstat\u011b elektronick\u00fd invent\u00e1\u0159). N\u011bkter\u00e9 archivy jej maj\u00ed v&nbsp;r\u00e1mci programu pro zve\u0159ej\u0148ov\u00e1n\u00ed digitalizovan\u00fdch archiv\u00e1li\u00ed (t\u0159eba SOA Litom\u011b\u0159ice), jin\u00e9 jej k&nbsp;tomu maj\u00ed samostatn\u00fd program (nap\u0159.&nbsp;SOA Praha). Tam sta\u010d\u00ed vyhled\u00e1vat podle obce a&nbsp;\u010d\u00edst&nbsp;si popisy archiv\u00e1li\u00ed z&nbsp;dan\u00e9 doby, ide\u00e1ln\u011b &#8222;p\u0159ehledov\u00fdch archiv\u00e1li\u00ed&#8220;, jako jsou urb\u00e1\u0159e \u010di&nbsp;soupisy poddan\u00fdch &#8211; prost\u011b si p\u0159e\u010dtete, kter\u00e9 obce archiv\u00e1lie obsahuje. Tam je t\u0159eba si ale pamatovat, \u017ee tyto dokumenty mohly b\u00fdt vytvo\u0159eny pouze pro ur\u010ditou \u010d\u00e1st panstv\u00ed. Panstv\u00ed toti\u017e mohla b\u00fdt \u010dlen\u011bna na&nbsp;&#8222;statky&#8220; \u010di&nbsp;&#8222;rychty&#8220; (zahrnuj\u00edc\u00ed n\u011bkolik obc\u00ed; n\u011bkdy je dobr\u00e9 sledovat sp\u00ed\u0161 tyto &#8222;statky&#8220; \u010di&nbsp;&#8222;rychty&#8220;, proto\u017ee mohly b\u00fdt prod\u00e1v\u00e1ny nebo d\u011bd\u011bny samostatn\u011b).<\/p>\n<p>Vyu\u017e\u00edt lze tak\u00e9 r\u016fzn\u00e9 <strong>knihy<\/strong>, kter\u00e9 se v\u011bnuj\u00ed historii obc\u00ed (lze je obvykle naj\u00edt v&nbsp;knihkupectv\u00edch v&nbsp;kategorii m\u00edstopisu, na&nbsp;n\u011bkter\u00e9 m\u00e1m odkazy p\u0159\u00edmo zde v&nbsp;odkazech v&nbsp;kategorii <a href=\"https:\/\/www.neznamo.cz\/genealogie\/odkazy-mistopis-cr\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">M\u00edstopis \u010cR<\/a>).<br \/>\nPro \u010cechy je online na&nbsp;r\u016fzn\u00fdch m\u00edstech kniha <strong><em>Franti\u0161ek Palack\u00fd: &#8222;Popis kr\u00e1lowstw\u00ed \u010desk\u00e9ho<\/em><\/strong><em> \u010dili podrobn\u00e1 poznamen\u00e1n\u00ed w\u0161ech dosawadn\u00edch kraj\u016fw, panstw\u00ed, statk\u016fw, m\u011bst, m\u011bste\u010dek a&nbsp;wesnic, n\u011bkdej\u0161\u00edch hrad\u016fw a&nbsp;twrz\u00ed, t\u00e9\u017e samot a&nbsp;zpustl\u00fdch osad mnoh\u00fdch w zemi \u010cesk\u00e9, s&nbsp;ud\u00e1n\u00edm jejich obywatelstwa dle popisu r. 1848&#8243;<\/em> (je nap\u0159\u00edklad <a href=\"http:\/\/www.digitalniknihovna.cz\/nkp\/uuid\/uuid:406257b6-e417-45e5-b221-dd1d86b14535\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">zde v&nbsp;digit\u00e1ln\u00ed knihovn\u011b<\/a>). Je ale t\u0159eba v\u017edy po\u010d\u00edtat s&nbsp;t\u00edm, \u017ee v&nbsp;t\u00e9to knize jde o&nbsp;&#8222;koncov\u00fd stav&#8220; &#8211; rozsah panstv\u00ed je uveden ve&nbsp;stavu na&nbsp;konci vrchnostensk\u00e9 spr\u00e1vy \u00fazem\u00ed. Dob\u0159e mohou poslou\u017eit pro \u010cechy i&nbsp;kni\u017en\u00ed edice Soupis\u016f poddan\u00fdch podle v\u00edry (dostupn\u00e9 jsou <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nacr.cz\/vyzkum-publikace-odborne-akce\/publikace\/e-knihy\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">zde na&nbsp;webu N\u00e1rodn\u00edho archivu<\/a>), p\u0159\u00edpadn\u011b pokud n\u011bkdo m\u00e1 edici Bern\u00ed ruly nebo Gener\u00e1ln\u00ed rejst\u0159\u00edk k&nbsp;bern\u00ed rule.<br \/>\nPro Moravu by to mohly b\u00fdt L\u00e1nov\u00e9 rejst\u0159\u00edky, ale na&nbsp;Morav\u011b nehled\u00e1m, proto nev\u00edm, zda jsou i&nbsp;jinde ne\u017e na&nbsp;nefunk\u010dn\u00ed aplikaci MZA. Podobn\u011b jako Palack\u00e9ho &#8222;Popis kr\u00e1lovstv\u00ed \u010desk\u00e9ho&#8220; m\u016f\u017ee pro Moravu poslou\u017eit <strong><em>&#8222;Vlastiv\u011bda Moravsk\u00e1&#8220;<\/em><\/strong>, vydan\u00e1 n\u00e1kladem Musejn\u00edho spolku v&nbsp;Brn\u011b (26 knih je dostupn\u00fdch <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/search.php?query=creator%3A%22Musejn%C3%AD+spolek+v+Brn%C4%9B%22\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">zde na&nbsp;slu\u017eb\u011b archive.org<\/a>). Op\u011bt je t\u0159eba po\u010d\u00edtat s&nbsp;t\u00edm, \u017ee jde o&nbsp;stav k&nbsp;ur\u010dit\u00e9mu roku a&nbsp;o&nbsp;generaci pozd\u011bji u\u017e mohla b\u00fdt situace trochu jin\u00e1.<\/p>\n<p>N\u011bkdy si v&nbsp;rychlosti pom\u00e1h\u00e1m i&nbsp;tak, \u017ee do&nbsp;<strong>vyhled\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed na&nbsp;internetu<\/strong> (pou\u017e\u00edv\u00e1m google, k&nbsp;n\u011bmu\u017e jsem <a href=\"https:\/\/www.neznamo.cz\/genealogie\/jak-hledat-predky-pomoci-google-efektivneji\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">zde zve\u0159ejnila n\u00e1vod<\/a>) zad\u00e1m n\u00e1zev obce a&nbsp;za&nbsp;to v&nbsp;uvozovk\u00e1ch slovo &#8222;panstv\u00ed&#8220; a&nbsp;pak je\u0161t\u011b znovu, ale v&nbsp;kombinaci obce a&nbsp;slova &#8222;velkostatek&#8220;. D\u00e1 se narazit i&nbsp;na&nbsp;velmi dob\u0159e zpracovan\u00e9 weby, kter\u00e9 pro n\u00e1s obsahuj\u00ed bohat\u00e9 zdroje informac\u00ed. \u010casto jsou to weby na\u0161ich kolegy\u0148 a&nbsp;koleg\u016f, kte\u0159\u00ed se dan\u00fdm \u00fazem\u00edm zab\u00fdvali \u010di&nbsp;zab\u00fdvaj\u00ed do&nbsp;hloubky. N\u011bkdy takto naraz\u00edm i&nbsp;na&nbsp;diplomky \u010di&nbsp;jin\u00e9 \u0161koln\u00ed pr\u00e1ce, n\u011bkdy i&nbsp;zcela mimo obor historie, v&nbsp;nich\u017e je ale t\u0159eba jen \u010d\u00e1ste\u010dn\u011b zpracovan\u00e1 historie oblasti, kter\u00e1 m\u011b zaj\u00edm\u00e1. N\u011bkdy m\u011b google zavede pro zm\u011bnu do&nbsp;n\u011bjak\u00e9ho katalogu knih, n\u011bkdy do&nbsp;uk\u00e1zky z&nbsp;knihy, kter\u00e1 je na&nbsp;netu v&nbsp;PDF apod. V&nbsp;t\u011bchto zdroj\u00edch je dobr\u00e9 si prohl\u00e9dnout i&nbsp;seznamy literatury.<\/p>\n<p>No a&nbsp;nakonec, samoz\u0159ejm\u011b, zad\u00e1m n\u00e1zev obce do&nbsp;<strong>hled\u00e1n\u00ed v&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.digitalniknihovna.cz\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">digit\u00e1ln\u00ed knihovn\u011b<\/a><\/strong> (postupn\u011b do&nbsp;v\u0161ech hlavn\u00edch i&nbsp;oblastn\u00edch knihoven).<\/p>\n<p>Je\u0161t\u011b na&nbsp;z\u00e1v\u011br: v\u0161e co takto zjist\u00edm, si <strong>poznamen\u00e1v\u00e1m<\/strong>, abych to za&nbsp;rok \u010di&nbsp;dva nehledala znovu.<\/p>\n<h3>Aktualizace<\/h3>\n<p><strong>25.&nbsp;1.&nbsp;2022<\/strong><br \/>\nK&nbsp;hled\u00e1n\u00ed na&nbsp;Morav\u011b a&nbsp;ve&nbsp;Slezsku jsem dostala tipy na&nbsp;dva dal\u0161\u00ed tituly. Jedn\u00e1 se o&nbsp;<strong><em>Ladislav Hos\u00e1k: &#8222;Historick\u00fd m\u00edstopis zem\u011b Moravskoslezsk\u00e9&#8220;<\/em><\/strong> (je k&nbsp;dispozici v&nbsp;PDF <a href=\"http:\/\/librinostri.catholica.cz\/kniha\/194-historicky-mistopis-zeme-moravskoslezske\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">zde v&nbsp;knihovn\u011b Libri nostri<\/a>) a&nbsp;<strong><em>Ladislav Hos\u00e1k, Rudolf \u0160r\u00e1mek: &#8222;M\u00edstn\u00ed jm\u00e9na na&nbsp;Morav\u011b a&nbsp;ve&nbsp;Slezsku&#8220;<\/em><\/strong> (online jsem nena\u0161la).<\/p>\n<p><strong>30.&nbsp;1.&nbsp;2023<\/strong><br \/>\nNa&nbsp;vy\u017e\u00e1d\u00e1n\u00ed p\u0159id\u00e1v\u00e1m z\u00e1sadn\u00ed, ale pro za\u010d\u00e1te\u010dn\u00edky velmi n\u00e1ro\u010dn\u00e9 d\u00edlo z&nbsp;konce 18.&nbsp;stolet\u00ed (1785\u20131791) &#8211; 16 svazk\u016f podle tehdej\u0161\u00edch kraj\u016f. <strong><em>Josef Franti\u0161ek Jaroslav Schaller: &#8222;Topographie des K\u00f6nigreiches B\u00f6hmen&#8220;<\/em><\/strong>. Digitalizovan\u00e9 d\u00edlo je minim\u00e1ln\u011b \u010d\u00e1ste\u010dn\u011b <a https:\/\/www.google.cz\/search?tbm=bks&#038;hl=cs&#038;q=Topographie+des+K%C3%B6nigreichs+B%C3%B6hmen\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">dostupn\u00e9 na&nbsp;google<\/a>. Je t\u0159eba po\u010d\u00edtat s&nbsp;t\u00edm, \u017ee je psan\u00e9 n\u011bmecky a&nbsp;vyti\u0161t\u011bn\u00e9 \u0161vabachem.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u010casto p\u0159i&nbsp;hled\u00e1n\u00ed p\u0159edk\u016f \u0159e\u0161\u00edme ot\u00e1zku, jak lze naj\u00edt informaci o&nbsp;tom, k&nbsp;jak\u00e9mu panstv\u00ed pat\u0159ila obec, v&nbsp;n\u00ed\u017e hled\u00e1me p\u0159edky. N\u011bkdy to v\u016fbec nen\u00ed snadn\u00e9. Ide\u00e1ln\u00ed by bylo, pokud by se hranice panstv\u00ed v&nbsp;historii nem\u011bnily, jen\u017ee ony se v&nbsp;pr\u016fb\u011bhu \u010dasu trochu m\u011bnily. Je proto dobr\u00e9 se zaj\u00edmat nejen o&nbsp;to, k&nbsp;jak\u00e9mu panstv\u00ed vesnice pat\u0159ila, ale i&nbsp;o&nbsp;to, kdy k&nbsp;n\u011bmu pat\u0159ila a&nbsp;zda to byla cel\u00e1 obec nebo jen n\u011bkolik chalup z&nbsp;n\u00ed. A&nbsp;to b\u00fdv\u00e1 pom\u011brn\u011b obt\u00ed\u017en\u00e9.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":2055,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[34],"tags":[46,76,101,102,84,78],"class_list":["post-2056","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-poznamky","tag-cechy","tag-lanovy-rejstrik","tag-morava","tag-panstvi","tag-poddanstvi","tag-soupis-poddanych-podle-viry"],"featured_image_urls_v2":{"full":["https:\/\/www.neznamo.cz\/genealogie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/mapa_kompas.jpg",1024,683,false],"thumbnail":["https:\/\/www.neznamo.cz\/genealogie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/mapa_kompas-150x100.jpg",150,100,true],"medium":["https:\/\/www.neznamo.cz\/genealogie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/mapa_kompas-300x200.jpg",300,200,true],"medium_large":["https:\/\/www.neznamo.cz\/genealogie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/mapa_kompas-768x512.jpg",525,350,true],"large":["https:\/\/www.neznamo.cz\/genealogie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/mapa_kompas.jpg",525,350,false],"1536x1536":["https:\/\/www.neznamo.cz\/genealogie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/mapa_kompas.jpg",1024,683,false],"2048x2048":["https:\/\/www.neznamo.cz\/genealogie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/mapa_kompas.jpg",1024,683,false],"twentyseventeen-featured-image":["https:\/\/www.neznamo.cz\/genealogie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/mapa_kompas.jpg",1024,683,false],"twentyseventeen-thumbnail-avatar":["https:\/\/www.neznamo.cz\/genealogie\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/mapa_kompas-100x100.jpg",100,100,true]},"post_excerpt_stackable_v2":"<p>\u010casto p\u0159i&nbsp;hled\u00e1n\u00ed p\u0159edk\u016f \u0159e\u0161\u00edme ot\u00e1zku, jak lze naj\u00edt informaci o&nbsp;tom, k&nbsp;jak\u00e9mu panstv\u00ed pat\u0159ila obec, v&nbsp;n\u00ed\u017e hled\u00e1me p\u0159edky. N\u011bkdy to v\u016fbec nen\u00ed snadn\u00e9. Ide\u00e1ln\u00ed by bylo, pokud by se hranice panstv\u00ed v&nbsp;historii nem\u011bnily, jen\u017ee ony se v&nbsp;pr\u016fb\u011bhu \u010dasu trochu m\u011bnily. Je proto dobr\u00e9 se zaj\u00edmat nejen o&nbsp;to, k&nbsp;jak\u00e9mu panstv\u00ed vesnice pat\u0159ila, ale i&nbsp;o&nbsp;to, kdy k&nbsp;n\u011bmu pat\u0159ila a&nbsp;zda to byla cel\u00e1 obec nebo jen n\u011bkolik chalup z&nbsp;n\u00ed. A&nbsp;to b\u00fdv\u00e1 pom\u011brn\u011b obt\u00ed\u017en\u00e9.<\/p>\n","category_list_v2":"<a href=\"https:\/\/www.neznamo.cz\/genealogie\/temata\/poznamky\/\" rel=\"category tag\">Pozn\u00e1mky<\/a>","author_info_v2":{"name":"Monika","url":"https:\/\/www.neznamo.cz\/genealogie\/author\/monika\/"},"comments_num_v2":"2 comments","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.neznamo.cz\/genealogie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2056","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.neznamo.cz\/genealogie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.neznamo.cz\/genealogie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.neznamo.cz\/genealogie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.neznamo.cz\/genealogie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2056"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.neznamo.cz\/genealogie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2056\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.neznamo.cz\/genealogie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/2055"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.neznamo.cz\/genealogie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2056"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.neznamo.cz\/genealogie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2056"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.neznamo.cz\/genealogie\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2056"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}